Tool 1 (asymmetry awareness)

  • Questions (categories)

  • Manual (how & why & for whom -> how can it be applied)

  • Name (option: we need to talk about money)

  • Form of result (what do you do with the outcome of tool 1)

Categories of questions:

  • Healthcare Are you dealing with sickness? Are you able to work full-time? Do you have high medicine or therapy bills? Do you need to count in a lot of time to get from one place to another?

  • Carework / reproductive work (children, sick people, old people) Do you have children? Are you a single parent? Are you taking care of someone? Are you sending money to family or friends abroad or in this country?

  • Job precarity / situation Do you spend a lot of time in trying to figure out what's the best way is of being paid in order to have enough money to survive? Do you have regular jobs? Can you find a job when you need it? Is it likely you get employed, if you need a job? Can you allow yourself to say no to a job opportunity?

    • contract type Are you working within the contractual framework? Do you have to accept volunteerscontracts or work within the RPI (KVR) framework to have enought money at the end of the month?

    • pay (amount) Can you efford to say no to an underpaid job?

    • network If you imagine a project are you likely to get support for it? Are you able to sell your work?

    • legal / taxes Do you have to trick legal ways of payment in Belgium in order to survive? Do you have the artiste-status?

    • retirement

  • socio-economic / cultural background (past) or present ? Were you raised in financial scarcity? Do you have a migration background? Do you have a migration background from a country that is facing discrimination in this country? Are you a woman? Are you a Person of colour? Are you facing discrimination because of your gender identity?

  • support network (now) Can you fall back on family in case you can't pay your rent? Can you fall back on your chosen family or friends in case you can't pay your bills?

  • mental health Are you able to work full-time? Do you need therapy?

  • legal status (in comparison to other countries) Do you have a legal status in this country? Are you "legal" in this country?

  • capital / heritage / savings Are you going to inherit money? Are you going to inherit a house or an appartement? Are you going to inherit land? Do you own property? Do you own (property)? Do you have savings?

  • debts

  • financial situation Do you have the artist status? Do you have the right for unemployment benefits? Do you have to search for days to find the cheapest train tickets or other ways of transportation? Do you travel at 5 am in the morning because you can't efford the later, more expansinve ticket? Can you efford to burn-out? Are you paying your rent?

    • people you have to pay for
  • mental load Do you need a lot of time to think about buying more expensive items even though you can effort them? Are you afraid of the raising energy prizes? Are you afraid to open envelops that look like bills? Are you able to discuss money or payment issues?

2. step tech (how to make it visually and sharable -> suggesting a divisision on how to divide the money

Tool 2: protocol: score for conversation

To put earn what you need in practice


Working group B

(developing a tool kit for solidarity initiatives)

6^th^ of September, members: Laura, Justine, Camille, Leonore

how do we define priorities on the aims?\ mapping, collecting can come afterwards

For Camille the most important thing on the list would be fair practice

To go in depth with that

To have a shift of perspective

What is fair practice as an open question

Not as a legal approach

Especially counting in asymmetries

So it's a talk about needs

The aim is to create two tools:

  1. to evaluate your relationship to money and your situation of needs

That questions class, questions of inheritance, needs

How to articulate a tool that can show the asymmetry of needs, but also with the value that the rich live with less money and the poor with more

So to balance out that imbalance

Laying the ground for this other tool,

  1. namely wat is fair pay by take what you need

As opposed to: everybody is well paid but everybody gets the same

With the focus on the arts

It would be great if the tool could be applied in art projects

I wanted to create a questionnaire for the almanac

How to pay fair?

Fairness, needs, assymetries

Fair pay as a way of paying what you need, instead of everybody earns the same

Kindred practices

Interconnected practices

Entangled needs

assymetrical needs

I would like to find a word for levelling of richness and poorness

Anarchism? So that it is self-organised?

Interim conclusion: we are not going to solve the problem of the political state today.

how are my needs entangled in the class system?

Or the existing economic system?

How would you figure out what are my needs? What are legitimate needs and what are not?

one way to start looking into that is health care.

For example: trans health care, in France, you have to pay for a lot of that yourself.

This was before I was an independent worker.

Stuff that is considered quality of life / cosmetic, even though for the person it is actually very important. It is even more clear if you look at people with disabilities. Needs are not met because of systemic injustices.

It's not a matter of convenience, but it's a matter of survival.

what are the extra costs that are not cared for by the states?

If this tool was a questionnaire.

let's start from the perspectives we have.

Different needs/perspectives.

We like the idea of working on assymetries on income.

I think in the arts, it gives the feeling everybody is precarious in the arts, but this is not per se true. Maybe it is a way to tap in the question: what are my privileges? That I don't know about? Maybe not use that language, find another word?

breaking the taboo can also be to create a language to neutralize it in a way, we are all part of the same system. Carework for example creates richness.

I would include in this tool some things we did in the commonopoly game. Who contributes to what? If I spend 25 on leasure and somebody else spends 500, how do we deal with this? Coming at it at a lot of different angles, can reveal interesting things.

job precariousness?

how do you make money? What kind of contracts? Fixed salary or not? What kind of environment do they exist in?

I also mean: if you are asked for a project, are you likely to get support? In what way? It's a network question. To get an awareness. Because this is something that also gives you stability in a way.

it is under the umbrella of precarity. What are the differences in fixed contracts? Minimum wage or above that?

How do you work through the system? How do you find ways to trick the legal system if your precarious situation forces you to do so?

it's about the mental load.

with this kind of questions, people can get aware of this. For example: Do you have to spend 5 days on finding the cheapest tickets? Do you always have to take the very earliest train?

how do we involve socio-economic background? If you are born social middle class, you have the opportunity to study more stuff and spend time learning about obscure things; networking. What you probably wouldn't have if you have to work every day. Are you paying your rent? Are you being supported somehow?

there are also scales of measuring priviliges. Like did you grow up in a house / apartment? Did you have to have a student job or not?

maybe we can put some questions in about how comfortable one is with money? Do you think you deserve to be paid well? Did you grow up in scarcity with money?

a follow-up question could be: what is your status now? You can be grown up in middle class, but maybe you grew up in a toxic environment and you don't benefit from it anymore, because you could have lost your support network.

what is your relationship to money now? Does it cost you anxiety? How do you respond when you have nothing left in your bank account? A question about retirement / inheritance?

can you afford to burn out?

what work do you do for free? (with an explanation of what we understand of 'work')

caring for others is work and it is not recognized, so that is quite an important one.

to establish this, we might need to do more research. What form / aim / where would we like to arrive with this?

online could be fun. If we use it for the almanac, I would like a form online, open source?

what happens after you filled in the questionnaire? Do you arrive in a category?

I think it should kind of give you a score. Just give it to you, and then you do what you want with it.

I imagine this tool for this other tool, the being paid what you need. So that this feedback would allow you to help with distributing budget. It helps have a discussion on who needs what in terms of income.

I would try to avoid to have it too categorical. 'If you answer most question with yes, it could mean that...' 'the more no's you have, the more precarity you are likely to have in your life'. The other tool can still be a discussion tool.

it sounds like it gives an idea. The power of the tool of a questionnaire is to give you more insight in the things you could otherwise ignore; you can look into the reality of things and start from there.

it can make the blind spots visible. There can not only be a tool. It needs also time and discussion.

the idea is to have it as a start to talk about what you need. Not as a strict category.

we could think of a scale. There is something interesting in relation to someone else (not speaking about the online version). There needs to be some kind of form of 'comparison'.

different ways to show the calculation: a score, a visualization. 'Here is the score you can start a conversation from'. The data should be anonymous. You cannot just store information about people with a name and intimate stuff. We have to think about this.

if you work analogally, for example a silly poster, to visualize the assymetries. It can be used for a project, an organization?

if you have a set budget, you could customize it? You could set up in advance a system with this.

'you can ask for this within the situation you are in'

it's about finding the right language.

even on paper / online I would leave space for questions we might have forgotten / for people to add questions

could this questionnaire be applicable in a non-profit organization? Or in a situation with fixed salaries?

we start at situating it with the art worker who works with short contracts, the institutions are a different subject.

you could use it yourself to have a reference, but otherwise, if you want something concrete to talk about, what pay you should ask for, it should come from the organizers. So we should also be advocating for using this tool.

Let's keep it short term: for this project what do you need?

if one wants to implement fairer pay, or more assymetric pay, the discussion of this needs to be paid. Otherwise it is a lot of voluntary work you ask for this.

I think this comes from the underlied shared believe about closing the gap between the poor and the rich. What particular ideology is this serving? Redistributing the wealth according to needs? Not based on meritocracy.


It can be a tool for yourself, but can also be used in a group (because it's interesting in relation to others, but it also about raising awareness of your own situation)

When is it used?

Why would I just use it for myself? Out of curiosity? Like you want to get to know your own footprint?

The questions I can imagine, I am more curious about when it would be needed to be useful and implemented? Would it be needed to get promoted? How do you communicate it, make it useful?

As well online as in the Almanak.

Distribution via Almanak.

Use all the allies that are linked to this.

Take what you need can be useful to be exported to other projects, but then with a protocol.

To get parameters to understand how to evaluate what you need, in the context of a specific condition. Giving clarity from the beginning (by the organizers).

It could be transported to other contexts.

It can be an interesting answer to precarious projects (where there is not enough money to pay everyone the same price)

It can also be used among groups of friends

We want to make a game out of this?

'We need to talk about money'

a tool that believes in equalizing resources / redistributing

or acknowledging the assymetries / acknowledge that we have different needs + capacity

it could be an Excell sheets with numbers inside / sharable

it can be an echotoop / different versions of the same idea

part 2 (after the break)

it shouldn't be categorized, like a machine, it's a tool to have a conversation, always

the tool demands a conversation

it's possible to simplify for other conversations

if the core of it is about opening up the discussion about money, in an everyday context, not only in worksituations, it should be brought up beforehand

in this protocol for conversation, it should be held beforehand (not afterwards, after, for example, the consumerism)

the conversation, this way, can be more at ease

stappenplan / timeline:

what kind of money needs to be involved in order to be able to pay the workers?


1/2 day of work individually

½ day of work shared

  • Create a pad on almanac -> public with group

needed budget for this first step: €1000

to be divided by the principles of the tool that we made